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	<title>Comments on: What Kellogg&#039;s and the Great Depression Can Teach You About PR and Marketing</title>
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		<title>By: Gini Dietrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gini Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy - Isn&#039;t the WSJ the ONLY newspaper in the top 25 not to have a declining circulation?

Doug - BRILLIANT quote, &quot;Cutting your marketing budget right now is like saying your cardio vascular system isn’t performing well so you’re going to cut your cardio training budget.&quot; I&#039;m stealing this.

Great comments, as always! Maybe we&#039;ll be able to change the perception that companies can do without PR, advertising, and marketing in a down economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy &#8211; Isn&#8217;t the WSJ the ONLY newspaper in the top 25 not to have a declining circulation?</p>
<p>Doug &#8211; BRILLIANT quote, &#8220;Cutting your marketing budget right now is like saying your cardio vascular system isn’t performing well so you’re going to cut your cardio training budget.&#8221; I&#8217;m stealing this.</p>
<p>Great comments, as always! Maybe we&#8217;ll be able to change the perception that companies can do without PR, advertising, and marketing in a down economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is just so much opportunity to be had.  I talk to business owners every week that are taking advantage in this down economy and growing their businesses.  I will retell this story over and over again. Such a good example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is just so much opportunity to be had.  I talk to business owners every week that are taking advantage in this down economy and growing their businesses.  I will retell this story over and over again. Such a good example.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree! Those companies who spend the money on marketing during hard times are going to be the ones who rise to the top both during the hard times and after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree! Those companies who spend the money on marketing during hard times are going to be the ones who rise to the top both during the hard times and after.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great anecdote!  In good times, awareness programs are akin to having a conversation in a crowded room. You have to focus and stand relatively close to someone to listen and contribute to a given conversation. As a downturn gains steam, the conversation in that room dwindles as budgets slim, until fewer people are talking. However this is the worst possible reaction: at a time when businesses need to be having more conversations with customers and prospects, they instead choose to have fewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great anecdote!  In good times, awareness programs are akin to having a conversation in a crowded room. You have to focus and stand relatively close to someone to listen and contribute to a given conversation. As a downturn gains steam, the conversation in that room dwindles as budgets slim, until fewer people are talking. However this is the worst possible reaction: at a time when businesses need to be having more conversations with customers and prospects, they instead choose to have fewer.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Davidoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Davidoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve thought about this post since my last comment, I realized that I missed one key point - the complete agreement I have that this is not the time to cut marketing budgets.  Marketing done properly builds asset value and &lt;b&gt;creates&lt;/b&gt; revenue.  Cutting your marketing budget right now is like saying your cardio vascular system isn&#039;t performing well so you&#039;re going to cut your cardio training budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve thought about this post since my last comment, I realized that I missed one key point &#8211; the complete agreement I have that this is not the time to cut marketing budgets.  Marketing done properly builds asset value and <b>creates</b> revenue.  Cutting your marketing budget right now is like saying your cardio vascular system isn&#8217;t performing well so you&#8217;re going to cut your cardio training budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post Gini - it seems to me that everytime we&#039;ve seen a dip in the markets there has been a discussion on cuts, cuts and more cuts to marketing and communication budgets/departments.

Makes one scratch their head while at the same time taking advantage of competitor miscues and enhancing one&#039;s efforts to enhance &quot;top of mind&quot; awareness as a result of ill advised cuts.  Like the old saying goes - every challenge creates an opportunity - those who survive long term not only know this they live it each and every single day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post Gini &#8211; it seems to me that everytime we&#8217;ve seen a dip in the markets there has been a discussion on cuts, cuts and more cuts to marketing and communication budgets/departments.</p>
<p>Makes one scratch their head while at the same time taking advantage of competitor miscues and enhancing one&#8217;s efforts to enhance &#8220;top of mind&#8221; awareness as a result of ill advised cuts.  Like the old saying goes &#8211; every challenge creates an opportunity &#8211; those who survive long term not only know this they live it each and every single day.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio Ricardo Varela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio Ricardo Varela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the time to act. The tides are shifting, and the players will change. History has always told us this, and this time is no different. Excellent, excellent post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the time to act. The tides are shifting, and the players will change. History has always told us this, and this time is no different. Excellent, excellent post!</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Costlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Costlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wall Street Journal took this advice &amp; they were the only newspaper to report an increase in circulation - which is especially important considering the precipitous drop in the rest of that industry.

If smart recession advertising can save a print-journal, it can save almost anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wall Street Journal took this advice &amp; they were the only newspaper to report an increase in circulation &#8211; which is especially important considering the precipitous drop in the rest of that industry.</p>
<p>If smart recession advertising can save a print-journal, it can save almost anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Davidoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Davidoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gini, I absolutely agree with the theme of this post.  There&#039;s a big barrier though.  As you say:

&lt;i&gt;With social media you can now heavily push your brand, your company, your service, or your product at half the cost of traditional methods. If you listen, build your communities, let your brand ambassadors spread the word, and provide value, your business will come out of the Great Recession as a dominant player, no matter your size.&lt;/i&gt;

The problem is that too many companies take a pushing approach and are merely using &quot;social media&quot; as another means to push, peddle and annoy.  They&#039;ve never stopped to ask themselves questions like:
- Who&#039;s our core market?
- What is it that our core market needs that they don&#039;t already have?
- What are we doing to &lt;b&gt;earn their attention&lt;/b&gt;

They take a solutions approach, instead of doing the really hard of work first understanding their buyers - better than their buyers understand themselves.  When these questions are asked, and this hard work is done, then (and only then) social media becomes an ideal resource to &quot;be the next Kellogg&#039;s.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gini, I absolutely agree with the theme of this post.  There&#8217;s a big barrier though.  As you say:</p>
<p><i>With social media you can now heavily push your brand, your company, your service, or your product at half the cost of traditional methods. If you listen, build your communities, let your brand ambassadors spread the word, and provide value, your business will come out of the Great Recession as a dominant player, no matter your size.</i></p>
<p>The problem is that too many companies take a pushing approach and are merely using &#8220;social media&#8221; as another means to push, peddle and annoy.  They&#8217;ve never stopped to ask themselves questions like:<br />
- Who&#8217;s our core market?<br />
- What is it that our core market needs that they don&#8217;t already have?<br />
- What are we doing to <b>earn their attention</b></p>
<p>They take a solutions approach, instead of doing the really hard of work first understanding their buyers &#8211; better than their buyers understand themselves.  When these questions are asked, and this hard work is done, then (and only then) social media becomes an ideal resource to &#8220;be the next Kellogg&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies immediately default to cutting budgets they think they can do without.  But if companies were to think strategically, they&#039;d see that advertising and marketing are budgets they absolutely need.

Look at the GM over the past year.  They had to do something to dig themselves out of that hole (or at least try).  That something was introduce ways to sell cars through offering ridiculous deals.  The only way to get the word out about those deals was through advertising and marketing using both traditional methods and new, social mediums.

Not only that, but if numerous companies are cutting back on those budgets, you can expect to see those same companies get lost in the shuffle. Companies should take advantage of tough times and advertise like crazy because they can get more for their money both quality and quantity-wise. Ad prices drop and key ad spots open up.

Just because times are tough doesn&#039;t mean the message isn&#039;t working...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies immediately default to cutting budgets they think they can do without.  But if companies were to think strategically, they&#8217;d see that advertising and marketing are budgets they absolutely need.</p>
<p>Look at the GM over the past year.  They had to do something to dig themselves out of that hole (or at least try).  That something was introduce ways to sell cars through offering ridiculous deals.  The only way to get the word out about those deals was through advertising and marketing using both traditional methods and new, social mediums.</p>
<p>Not only that, but if numerous companies are cutting back on those budgets, you can expect to see those same companies get lost in the shuffle. Companies should take advantage of tough times and advertise like crazy because they can get more for their money both quality and quantity-wise. Ad prices drop and key ad spots open up.</p>
<p>Just because times are tough doesn&#8217;t mean the message isn&#8217;t working&#8230;</p>
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